You said: "You even went so far as to tell Kami she didn't know how to draw boobs right... So sorry if I ignored your messages, but I figured getting your pics done for you would be better than going back & forth with details. "
My reply: Gunmouth, you're a little off topic. This thread is about you and me, not Kami and me. If Kami had a problem with something I said she had every opportunity to tell me. I haven't had any real problems with Kami. She's done wonderful work for me and I'd happily commission her again.
Fact is, I didn't tell Kami she didn't know how to draw breasts. What I said was that I wanted them drawn differently than how she was drawing them. She showed me the work-in-progress and asked me what I thought. What should I have done? Kept my mouth shut and said nothing?! I regard as commissions as collaborative effort between artists and their commissioners. What's wrong with a dialogue?! It was a minor alteration and Kami and I were just having a constructive artist-customer discussion. If she was offended or if there was any problem there, for the life of me, honestly, I didn't see it. If you really want people to give you money and you do whatever you want without them being able to have any say, be upfront about that before taking people's money. Of course, I'd imagine then you wouldn't get as many customers but at least everyone would know what they'd be getting themselves into.
Ok, you said you thought it better to spend time and energy getting the commission done rather than going back and forth with details. Fair enough Gunmouth. However, I just wanted to know when you thought it might be done. I never once asked you to go over any details after getting back from the convention. So, that's really not a valid excuse for not replying to my question.
Now, to address your Livejournal comments:
You wrote: "Maybe I can clear some of this up. I will admit that I am slow on commissions and trades. Though, MOST people who commission/trade me eventually get what they asked for, as long as they keep in constant communication with me..."
My reply: You say "constant communication" but well then, haven't I been trying to keep in touch? oO
You said: "What Featherdragon said is true-- yes, I have bee failing to reply to his comments. Granted, I feel he has been a little more impatient than others (in some cases, messaging me from every place possible after not even waiting a day since the last message), but I SHOULD have responded to him. For neglecting to do that, I apologize..."
My reply: I appreciate your apology Gunmouth. However, as I pointed out in my initial post at the start of this thread, I contact you on July 4th, and waited until July 19th to try again, and then waited until July 29th before trying yet again. After a month, I just got fed up with waiting and so I wasn't about to give you another two weeks to reply which is why I tried harder to contact you on July 30th and 31st. So really, your implying that I haven't been patient is not factually accurate. And I will reiterate yet again that this has nothing to do with the fact that my commission is not finished and has everything to do with the fact that you weren't acknowledging my messages. You admit to being a bit peeved at my attempts to contact you but yet you did nothing but ignore me and didn't even try to explain before now what was happening?! Is it any wonder that after a month of silence I was peeved and asked for a refund?! It's not so mysterious and unjustifiable when you think about it. If you're not willing to put in the effort to keep in contact with me I don't want to do business with you and I want my money back. It's very simple and very fair. Customers have a right to know what's happening.
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Date: 2010-08-02 09:26 pm (UTC)You said:
"You even went so far as to tell Kami she didn't know how to draw boobs right... So sorry if I ignored your messages, but I figured getting your pics done for you would be better than going back & forth with details. "
My reply:
Gunmouth, you're a little off topic. This thread is about you and me, not Kami and me. If Kami had a problem with something I said she had every opportunity to tell me. I haven't had any real problems with Kami. She's done wonderful work for me and I'd happily commission her again.
Fact is, I didn't tell Kami she didn't know how to draw breasts. What I said was that I wanted them drawn differently than how she was drawing them. She showed me the work-in-progress and asked me what I thought. What should I have done? Kept my mouth shut and said nothing?! I regard as commissions as collaborative effort between artists and their commissioners. What's wrong with a dialogue?! It was a minor alteration and Kami and I were just having a constructive artist-customer discussion. If she was offended or if there was any problem there, for the life of me, honestly, I didn't see it. If you really want people to give you money and you do whatever you want without them being able to have any say, be upfront about that before taking people's money. Of course, I'd imagine then you wouldn't get as many customers but at least everyone would know what they'd be getting themselves into.
Ok, you said you thought it better to spend time and energy getting the commission done rather than going back and forth with details. Fair enough Gunmouth. However, I just wanted to know when you thought it might be done. I never once asked you to go over any details after getting back from the convention. So, that's really not a valid excuse for not replying to my question.
Now, to address your Livejournal comments:
You wrote:
"Maybe I can clear some of this up. I will admit that I am slow on commissions and trades. Though, MOST people who commission/trade me eventually get what they asked for, as long as they keep in constant communication with me..."
My reply:
You say "constant communication" but well then, haven't I been trying to keep in touch? oO
You said:
"What Featherdragon said is true-- yes, I have bee failing to reply to his comments. Granted, I feel he has been a little more impatient than others (in some cases, messaging me from every place possible after not even waiting a day since the last message), but I SHOULD have responded to him. For neglecting to do that, I apologize..."
My reply:
I appreciate your apology Gunmouth. However, as I pointed out in my initial post at the start of this thread, I contact you on July 4th, and waited until July 19th to try again, and then waited until July 29th before trying yet again. After a month, I just got fed up with waiting and so I wasn't about to give you another two weeks to reply which is why I tried harder to contact you on July 30th and 31st. So really, your implying that I haven't been patient is not factually accurate. And I will reiterate yet again that this has nothing to do with the fact that my commission is not finished and has everything to do with the fact that you weren't acknowledging my messages. You admit to being a bit peeved at my attempts to contact you but yet you did nothing but ignore me and didn't even try to explain before now what was happening?! Is it any wonder that after a month of silence I was peeved and asked for a refund?! It's not so mysterious and unjustifiable when you think about it. If you're not willing to put in the effort to keep in contact with me I don't want to do business with you and I want my money back. It's very simple and very fair. Customers have a right to know what's happening.
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