[identity profile] noctowl.livejournal.com
WHO: KitNabarii / BlueTigerKitty

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kitnabarii / http://www.furaffinity.net/user/bluetigerkitty

WHAT: She won digital YCH auction for $50, link to the auction (NSFW): http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10030994/

WHEN: Auction won on March 2nd, never recieved payment

Screencaps etc. )
[identity profile] wintersnowolf.livejournal.com
This weekends turn of events from this previously titled entry A_B post has been resolved. I wish nothing but the best for the rest of the people KuroKitten owes; I hope you ALL receive what she needs to send you and begins to slowly rebuild what reputation she has left, back. As far as the outbursts and "Sock Puppetry" on her behalf all I will state is that Actions Speak Louder Than Words

For the full details of this resolved event and the end outcome please see the final update Edit #5 here: http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/531876.html

END OUTCOME: She mailed me a Western Union Check for $100.00 (I plan to deposit later today) as well as the art back and a note telling me her feelings. Total time to receive payment from being announced the winner: August 17th, 2010 - November 2nd, 2011

Image: http://flic.kr/p/aBgR9Z

Issue Finally resolved.
Thank you all!

_Rain

HERE'S THE PROOF IT CASHED A-OK YA'LL: "Proof: Western Union M.O. cashed :)" http://t.co/v3GSTDI

Additional info-
Her note word for word typed by user Kayla_la(thank you btw!):
Here is your money and here is your picture. I am sending both to you because even tho you are getting your money I dont want the art.

I told you I was sorry and I even appologized for it, but that apparently didn't matter to you but you know whatever. It really doesn't matter anymore.

Do what you want with the picture. Its your's anyway. It doesnt belong to me and it never did
[identity profile] skirtandzy.livejournal.com
Seeing the previous post here, I've decided to update my own issue that I had with Kuro, as found here:
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/383027.html

My half from that: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3364785/

==UPDATE==

As of today, over 1 year since my initial A_B post, and 18 months since the trade I made with Kuro, I have still yet to receive anything from her.

Every once in a while, I would try to communicate with her, each time, the conversation dead-ended, if it began at all.

I have a few of these saved: (Take note, I changed my FA username this summer, so that is why there are two different names on this)

February of 2011: http://i.imgur.com/9iA9Y.png
In February, she claimed it finished, and just needed to wait for the recent snowfall to lessen.

April 2011: http://i.imgur.com/PqGY6.jpg
Now she claims to be working on it

July 2011: http://i.imgur.com/cwOoZ.png
This is when I alert her to my changed account (so converation could continue there), and again she claims to be working on it.

September 2011: http://i.imgur.com/GQlH9.png
I note her, with a reintroduction, and explain my contact, it was read, but not responded to.



The problem I have now is what to do. I really only see three options to this:
1. Wait it out to see if anything comes.
2. Chalk it up as a loss (I really do not want to do this)
3. Ask for compensation (*note below)
*The problem with the third one is that I would not know what 'compensation' would be. When I was doing the writing, it would be either as a gift to friends (or for someone for something important) or as a trade. I never exchaned money in any of the cases, so I'd not think it'd be applicable after the fact, and given that it was never in writing.




Edit 1: Kuro has contacted me, about sending out something. I've asked for a preview, and will edit this again once things are sorted out.

Edit 1.5: We've exchanged notes, and I've provided my email. As of yet, I have yet to receive a preview of what she is planning on sending. She said that it would be sent out after she finished babysitting on the 31st. Here is the exchange of notes, her's being in yellow, mine in blue.
http://i.imgur.com/X9M7S.png
[identity profile] wintersnowolf.livejournal.com
First off I am NOT a LJ user much, so please bear with me as I try to post here to A_B appropriately!

WHO: KuroKitten87: Other Affiliate names: kurokedel/coyabbit/coyandkuro

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kurokitten87

WHAT: Contest for a Traditional Wedding art piece with promised Cash Prizes

WHEN: April 28th, 2010

PROOF: 
#1. The initial Contest entry journal: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1369985/ Screen Shot: http://flic.kr/p/azMBKC 

#2. Her asking me directly in a note: http://flic.kr/p/azKH3i 
#3. Contest Ending Soon Journal: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1483748/ Screen Shot: http://flic.kr/p/azKdHF
I have 5 entries so far and I was really really hopping to see more....
#4. The "Contest Winners Soon" Journal: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1641663/ Screen Shot: http://flic.kr/p/azJXnR
#5. My Contest Entry: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3936996/
#6. Noting me that I Won: #1 Screen Shot: http://flic.kr/p/azK89a #2. http://flic.kr/p/azK8dv

#7. Announcement of winners: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1642572/ (I won first) Screen Shot: http://flic.kr/p/azMMru 
#8. Their Replies to my Private notes: Her Reply- http://flic.kr/p/azJZvF And His Reply- http://flic.kr/p/azMEdN
#9. Payed me for a set of Icons: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5078603/ 
#10. Additional Contest #2: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2001990/ Screen Shot: http://flic.kr/p/azMBNA
#11. Additional Contest #3: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2525493/ Screen Shot: http://flic.kr/p/azMBRS 
EXPLAIN: 

Over a year ago I entered in a contest Hosted by KuroKitten87 to draw a picture of her and her mate' Coyabbit and it be 'Wedding themed'. Being nice, I opted to enter. She was offering cash prizes, after all. [See Links #1, #2, #3, #4]


Alas, I had given trust in both of them with the understanding I had to mail the entry in before June 26th for it to count in the contest. So yes, I know this was stupid and the wrong thing to do. Its called Instilling Trust, something I quickly, sadly learned not to do in the furry fandom. So, I mailed the piece out of the goodness in my heart knowing:If I win, I will get paid. [See Links #5, #6, #7] Lo and Behold, I win! Hurray!
So, Having pestered them both a few times hare and there via shouts (nicely of course) several months later, I had decided enough waiting, and sent them this PM to all four accounts I know they own. I had also contacted the other 2 winners who said they have received the same thing: Nothing, for their winning contest entries. Written below is my letter to all their accounts-
Date: October 17th, 2011
I dont have to really say anything:
I won, I mailed you art, and I have YET to receive any payout.
As does the other 2 winners
Yet you have hosted 2 more contests I see.
I am wondering whats up with that. Until you pay, you do not have my consent to repost the art I made and you should do the right thing: Pay up or mail that piece back.
I am sending this note to every account that is connected to you and your husband. If nothing is replied to, opened or this issue is not addressed or resolved at all within a reasonable time frame, action will be taken.
They both replied. [See Link #8]
And His Reply- http://flic.kr/p/azMEdN
I had addressed them both back and had informed them they both had one week to resolve the issue at hand. Its been that time, and I had informed them both already, if nothing had been done, I would go public. I have not been paid, I have not received a tracking number for said payment and frankly, I gave them over a year. And additional week plus a warning was fair enough.
Not to mention! I Know, FOR A FACT their paypal works. Why? Because they PAID ME for a set of icons. [See Link #9] So no more beating around the bush and procrastination on my end. Here's the story and their admission to guilt for not paying me.
ALSO: They had hosted 2 ADDITIONAL CONTESTS. Even after their 'Wedding themed' one and STILL NO ONE HAD BEEN PAID [See Links #10, #11]
So why make a big stink over this you may ask?
Well: I wasted my time; they stole the art basically; have procrastinated enough; and they have not done the right thing yet:
Pay me (and the other winners), or MAIL THE WEDDING ART BACK I MADE AND SENT YOU.
SIMPLE AS THAT.
Hence why I have become very wary about anymore "contests"
Bellow are all four accounts listed I know that have ties to "KuroKitten87"
Last thing I have to say to them is this:
How disgusting. You lie, give false non-existent prizes, collect the art and NEVER pay the winners. And, on top of that all, you probably have my piece of art hanging somewhere, look at it everyday, and: How do you look at it and feel good knowing you have stolen from someone?
All in all be WARY of KuroKitten and her false "contests" Period.

#1 EDIT: Additional Images
Last Note I sent her about the contest: http://flic.kr/p/azSmjW 
After that, I hear nothing until: http://flic.kr/p/azSmmN 

I complete her commission in a timely manner, and she states "also I know its been a while since you won the contest.... but I should have enough to send the money next pay day after this^^"

The ball was left in her court. 

Since posting this journal I have received a note saying: http://flic.kr/p/azSzxb

FYI as per Link #1, prize winner of 1st place she claimed would receive "$100 or $75 Depending on how much I have when I come home" From the beginning I have "instilled trust" in a complete stranger. I will keep this post updated with the end outcome of this incident.

#2 EDIT: Additional Images, Again (Probably not *too* important)

Re-reading through more of my note mountain, I see she had inquired about obtaining an Iron Artist slot of mine.

Here, she admits to Having the picture, and her husband "put the wedding pic you did on the wall in the livingroom beside his desk.... as soon as he got ahold of it^^"
Image: http://flic.kr/p/azT5gq 
This was also the last note I ever heard about wanting in my Iron Artist. No transaction of payment nor art was delivered.

#3 EDIT: Additional Images; Shipped my piece to a P.O. Box

Again, just more information: http://flic.kr/p/aAmsb5 
Just to show you, that she took enough initiative to go to the P.O. box she pays to rent (Name, box number, city and zip withheld) to pick up the art I mailed her in May of 2010, but cant go back when she lived there, to mail me a payment back out when I was informed I won. Relevant.


#4 EDIT: Tracking Number Update 

As of 11-1-11, 9:30 EST AM, the tracking number she had given to me seems to have successfully been dropped off at the post office and has an expected delivery date of Tomorrow Nov 2nd. Image:  http://flic.kr/p/aAT77H

#5 EDIT: Issue Resolved

11-2-11 When I got home this afternoon I was pleasantly surprised at the package at my door. Kuro delivered and here is the picture proof: http://flic.kr/p/aBgR9Z

(Proof: Western Union M.O. cashed : http://t.co/v3GSTDI ) 

The hand written note included says what it says and I will say this in conclusion: This all could have been avoided Kuro, by being responsible on your end. I too am sorry it resulted in this, but remember that Actions speak louder than words. Thank you for finally holding up your end.

Admins, please tag this post and the new post as Resolved, thanks in advanced.
[identity profile] skirtandzy.livejournal.com
This is my first time posting here, since I generally try to avoid talking badly of an artist I have done business with. But I have been waiting a while, and I hope this helps.

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