[identity profile] shirikdraguinea.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artistsbeware2_archive
IMPORTANT EDIT
Just had this comment via FA from one of my watchers:
Major alert - shortly after following that link, my google account has been hijacked and has been mass spammng. I have d/c'ed from the internet (using phone atm), and am virus scanning. Be VERY careful, or avoid altogether.
If anyone thinks they got something nasty I'm really sorry - try running HouseCall ( http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ ) - its an online based virus scanner so it can't be affected by anything on your system. I had no negative consequences from visiting this website but some others have - if you have been affected I am incredibly sorry :(


A friend of mine recently alerted me to yet another art theft rich art site - Never To Much Yiff. You can see it advertised at the owners FurAffinity page and he states:

"You can download and archive of 11,745 sorted by artist. I am not selling it is free to download so enjoy and please donate 2$ every 5$ goes to animal shelter of my choice"
(I took some liberty with this quote... the typos on the picture made me cry).

So in a nutshell, this person Techie9098 is putting up work by other artists without permission, and charging "donation" for them. I haven't checked the artists affected by this though as it requires downloading a torrent with all of these files.

Just a heads up for people.

EDIT:

His main page has been replaced by a Caramelldansen video but the download link remains and the torrent is still on pirate bay.

Date: 2010-06-21 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leahtaur.livejournal.com
Typo right in the URL, oh ma gaaaaaaah--

Sorry. Nothing constructive to say, that's all I could focus on. :P

Date: 2010-06-21 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zareonianwolf.livejournal.com
Aw you beat me to it. /typoraeg

also awesome icon ins -awesome-

Date: 2010-06-21 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synviver.livejournal.com
I think it might be good to actually get a list of all the artists that are in said torrent. I can't do any downloading myself right now, as I'm at work, but when I get home, if no one's beaten me to it, I may just toddle over to BitTorrent and snatch that up. :x

Then again, I shudder to think of what might be lurking in there. D:

Date: 2010-06-21 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keaalu.livejournal.com
I don't think he understands how torrents work, mind you, since someone on FD_2 pointed out he's not even seeded what he's advertising.

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Date: 2010-06-21 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alpha-orionis-v.livejournal.com
Guy's a wanker, and has been reported to his host and PayPal.

That said, I'd really love to know who all he was pirating.

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Date: 2010-06-21 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dingorama.livejournal.com
Can I just have a grammar nazi moment here and dismiss this guy as an idiot immediately by pointing out that his URL is "Never To Much Yiff" --it should be Never TOO Much Yiff. Dumb ass.

I just sat in on some of his chat room convo and watched him battle with concerned artsts. He just banned everyone that was telling him that art theft is wrong and he gave some song and dance about how he'll shut down his website for a $20 donation (yeah right), and that it's supposedly not wrong to take this art because artists who put up their work on art websites are essentially giving their art to the world for anyone to use.

Give me a break.. *rolls eyes*

Date: 2010-06-21 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
It was a dumb mistake for them to make, but please watch the personal insults. Thanks!

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Date: 2010-06-21 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] almightytora.livejournal.com
All I got was a Caramelldansen flash. XD

Date: 2010-06-21 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] almightytora.livejournal.com
To bypass the flash and see the rest of the site, go here:

http://nevertomuchyiff.eu5.org/home.html

Date: 2010-06-21 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sekhmet.livejournal.com
oh noes! The chat died! :O

Date: 2010-06-21 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sekhmet.livejournal.com
so much fail. :(
My eyes hurt.

Date: 2010-06-21 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alpharaye.livejournal.com
Wow, the sheer audacity and gall of some people, but then again, this is the internet.

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Date: 2010-06-21 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kytheraen.livejournal.com
Hmm... I saw that guy earlier. Every 10 mins or so he would upload the same picture. I was tempted call him on it and correct his grammar but then decided I couldn't be bothered.

Date: 2010-06-21 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loupgaros.livejournal.com
Have NoScript on if you view it. Otherwise it's time for a big detox of your system.

Date: 2010-06-21 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxhack.livejournal.com
Well, if there's a torrent on The Pirate Bay, then there's little chances of it being taken down. They typically ignore DMCA or takedown requests. :(

Date: 2010-06-21 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxhack.livejournal.com
However, if he doesn't know how to seed then there's little chance of anyone getting any files. :p

Date: 2010-06-21 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minimalismo.livejournal.com
I clicked on it and all I saw was an annoying anime flash thingy.

Date: 2010-06-22 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frazzled-niya.livejournal.com
3.01GB of furry art. It is also being seeded.

Date: 2010-06-22 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animehoneybee.livejournal.com
I seemed to have caused a bit of a commotion on the previous thread of this sort, so I'll try a different route.

I know and understand that it sucks when someone takes anothers work and does something we don't know about, or want them to do. HOWEVER, let's just rationalize for a second and ask ourselves, WHY is it bad? IF someone looses absolutely nothing and their ability to create further works is not hindered, their livelihood not threatened, their reputation in tact, etc. etc., what, besides the lack of permission (which is debatable) makes it wrong?

I personally do not believe that others should 'infringe' our works to OUR DETRIMENT, as in, do the same thing we are doing and make money WE ought to have made, or get attention or praise, or whatever motivations we hold for posting on the net, INSTEAD of us who have created it. BUT if someone starts posting or selling anothers work who never intended to do so themselves, they've actually lost nothing, even though the 'infringer' has benefited from work they did not create.

This is also not to say that we should support or encourage people who 'rip off' others works, BUT I don't think legislation or legal action is the solution. I think I failed in the last thread to suggest a viable alternative, but I propose innovation and creativity.

If we want to stop sites like this, we need to get more creative. I think it's much more effective to start building up sites that beat these 'infringers' at their own game. Why do you suppose livestreaming on official sites is gaining in popularity? because the public generally wants to go to the right source and support the creators of work, but if the creators only use the law as a sword to vanquish 'pirates' then they're still not giving the consumer, i.e. the public, what they really want. One may say they have no obligations to the public, but when you put your work into the public, its an exchange. No one does it for NO reason. whether to improve through advice/comments, the attention, money, opportunity, making people happy, etc. etc. it's an exchange, and the internet was never set up to give IP owners/creators 100% rights. The main goal was the sharing of ideas.

Sorry for being tl;dr again, but basically, instead of using a really terrible piece of legislation like the DMCA, try getting creative. Communities like A_B are a perfect example of socially driven solutions that help give power to affected parties without invoking use of the law.

Date: 2010-06-22 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilenth.livejournal.com

So according to your logic it would be okay for someone to take something you own which you weren't using because they wouldn't be doing you any harm.

Here's a notion for you, my art belongs to me, and I am the only one who gets to decide what happens to it, not you, not joe random, not anyone else who isn't me.

Do you have any idea how offensive you are when you come into a community that is full of working artists and presume to lecture us about how we shouldn't care about someone stealing and profiting (since both sites ARE making a profit from it) from our artwork because you don't believe that it's harmful? Well do you?

It's called failure to enforce, it's the legal precedent where a failure to protect your rights means you can be STRIPPED of them. Ergo, if we don't chase down someone who is ILLEGALLY profiting from our work, then if we decide to do something profitable with it, they could SUE us and possibly get our right to OUR work stripped away because we haven't protected it.

AGAIN THEFT IS NOT CREATIVITY. Maybe it is in bizarro land but we live in the real world.

Go and actually do some research so you don't offend people via ignorance as you have been doing.

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Date: 2010-06-22 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com
Did you not see the part where he was asking for donations for the collection? Donations for a collection of available art AND paysite related art? (hardblush paysite and more)

Or...did you skip that part entirely? He was trying to black male people into donating to his "cause" and only after a $20 would he remove the torrent.

He was trying to profit off what he calls "free art". That right there is grounds for a stir. Please look a bit more carefully before tl;dring.

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Date: 2010-06-22 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] armaina.livejournal.com
No, what we need to do is take legal recourse so that people know that there are real and negative consequences for their actions. Art that has been published on-line is not public domain.

Seriously, read that PDF I linked you to, the whole thing, not just bits and pieces of it.
Edited Date: 2010-06-22 07:24 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-06-22 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duster.livejournal.com
Just a warning, some people are saying they're getting a virus from the site. Can you put a warning just in case that virus is still lurking on the site, OP?

Date: 2010-06-22 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dobie.livejournal.com
For those of you who are wondering, here is a listing of the root directory of the archive:

Directory of Z:\Furry Archive
Ayame-Emaya
BlackTeagan
Blotch
Cheetahs
Chris Goodwin
Chris Sawyer
Comics
a bet's a bet
all the comforts
another fine mess
Another Yiff Story
anti social behavior 1-2
anubis dark desire
Anubis Dark Desire 04
asb
bath time
beast heaven
Beast Heaven - Hibakichi
Beast Heaven Alternative
Bedtime Drunk
Behind the scenes
Berries
big bad wolf club
Blazingcheeks
blind date
Boku No Ana
Boku To Asobo
Bonk comic
Bossmen
Boytoy
Breath of Fire
Build Tiger
Bull Bk Store
bunny boys
Butter Toast
Byakkoto Byakkotukai
captin triumph
Carpe Diem 1-2
chances
chap
Chicken Stealer
Circles
Closet coon
Cobalt 1-5
cocktails
cocktails 2
comic Klonoa
Connor
Cross Platform
Curiosity
DARKRON
DARKRON II
devil's advocate
digi yaoi 1
digi yaoi 2
digi yaoi 4
digi_yaoi 3
Dogs Days of Summer COMPLETE
enforced slavery
expirement
fel's deamon hunter
fel's no exceptions
Feline Boi Love
final
Finding_Avalon_issue__1
fishing
Flamedramon + Tiger
Flamedramon Yaoi 1
flaming tart
fox mccloud comic
Fox Trap
furonika
furpiled.1 Midnight Radio
furpiled.2 Boys who like Boys
furpiled.3 Mr Tangerine Speedo updated
furpiled.4 Cue the pulse to begin
furpiled.5 Love of the Loveless
Furronika
furry boys
Furry Porno
furry revolution
FurryGlide
game boys
game boys 3
gathering wood
genus male 8
gideon comic
good clean fun
Gun
Gyro Comic
hangout
Hank And The Newbies
hardblush
Harubon 1
Harubon 2
Harubon 3
Harubon 4
heathen city
Hibakichi - Beast Chaser 1
Hibakichi - Beast Chaser 2
Hibakichi - Beast Chaser 3
hick donalds
hitting the showers
incomplete
initiation
inside muscle
Jay Huskeh -Curiosity comic
jock tease
juice series
Just Stay Five Minutes
Kairaku
Kemo Shota Daozukan
Kemono Shounen
Kings Play
Klonoa
Klonoa & Tails
Kogemani
kuro black noir
lapping the competition
Lip-Tale
little entrepreneur
little red and the big bad wolf
Little Saints
Love Juice
Love Me More
love potion
Love sucks
lovin tree
Lube Job
Lupe N Lore
Magic 3 Lizardman
Mamoru-kun
Mark Wulfgar - Wuffy
Massage pallour
matted fur
mean streets
Meesh - Sluty Fox Comic
Meeting In The Sauna
megaton dragon
Megatron Dragon - Digimon Dragon Sanctuary
Misemono
morn than words
Morning Wood
moving in
my hustler
New Folder
Not For Return
Nyng To Geo
od
Only If You Kiss
onta comic
Orera no Okite
palm of my hand
Panda
Panty Shot
Pao
paper jam
Paw
pb and jay
pb and jay 2
Pet and Stray Love
PetShopBoy
PetShopBoy Puppy Love
Pictograph in Preprint
pj pup
play
porto police
Profiles 1
Profiles2
queer's in the kitchen
queerman
Re J
Reo - New Years Party
ring tail cafe
Rio Grande
Robin Hood's adventure
Roommates
rough riders
Sandan und Sandamer
Sanft (cat boys)
sex stages
Shenanigans
Shishimaru Yuuya
sleep over
sleeping in
Slutty kitty
softpaw 4
song and dance
soul of the past
Special Delivery
Spelunker_Sal_Roommates
SPFA
spinonit
Sticky Stuff
storge room
Stripes
suducing a werewolf
Sugar Candy
summer crammin
Summer Job
SVASTI KATS
sweat and sex
syndicate brigade
T2
Tailless Dog
Tanoshii Kemono No Jikan
the 19 yr old squire
the day before the exam
the deal
the fitting room
the horn of desire
The Leap
The Misadventures Of The Tanuki
The New Adventures of Ashchu
The Scary Teacher
the stand in's
the temple
the wanderer
Thundercats
time well spent
tryst
tylers trouble
unfinished comic
unknown comic
unnamed meesh comic
vilani_saetto
virtual intimacy
Wa Juu
wanwan paradise
wfsb
Wild kNights Gulkeeva yaoi comic
wonderful life of doom
Woof
zaush comic
Zen Comic
zettai_byakko
[FxA] Kogenami yaoi comic
[FxA] Photo Shoot 1
[FxA] Pre-sent
[FxA] Rej
[FxA] Roxikat game boys summer special
[FxA] Swishy 2
[FxA] Thief
[FxA] Yin & Yang Kogenami comic
[fxc]Louie Furrywolfy's personal training
[Team Shuffle] T2 of Trump
Dalmation
Dr. Comit
dragoneer
Favorites
FEL
Flatrat
Fluke
foxxfire
Friends Eager
Funnys
gembeck
Hangin' Out
Heat
hiker
Hitting The Showers
Hitting The Showers Part 2
Inuki
jijix
JW
k-9 room mates
kama citra - full poster
Karabiner
Klaus Dobermann
MicahFennec
Motion on the ocean
Mudshark
Onta
Peritian
Random Fox
Random unsorted
Renamon
Sanft
sirrus
splotch
tanidareal
Taurinfox
teh non yiffies
The Tape
unsorted artist
Wookiee
wookiee comic
zaush
Zen
[fxc]_Furnation_6
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