[identity profile] ikuwoo.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artistsbeware2_archive
WHO: Jaykuma / DatPisces

WHERE: NSFW http://www.jaykuma.deviantart.com/ NSFW https://www.furaffinity.net/user/datpisces/

WHAT: An art trade

WHEN: 4 months ago we started talking, 3 months ago scheduled it to be 2 months ago, told today it was cancelled after doing part of mine and being ignored for two months

PROOF: Agreement on the trade: http://i.imgur.com/y1FuipO.png and NSFW http://i.imgur.com/P8Eso5Q.png My completed work of the trade (about half of my part asked for) NSFW http://i.imgur.com/tgBSaNM.png Their cancellation http://i.imgur.com/OhY7X6U.png

EXPLAIN: Jaykuma on deviantart/DatPisces on Furaffinity had agreed to an art trade with me 4 months ago. http://i.imgur.com/y1FuipO.png They said we'd need to schedule it to be a month later. http://i.imgur.com/WZiQB2i.png Fast forward a month and they say they're starting their half tomorrow at 2am Est. http://i.imgur.com/0iD45y2.png So we work out the specifics and I start working on my half of the trade. NSFW http://i.imgur.com/P8Eso5Q.png

After a few days I contact them again with what I had finished (NSFW http://i.imgur.com/tgBSaNM.png) at which point they let me know that they haven't started but they'll be done with the first part by the end of the week (because they started playing Overwatch http://i.imgur.com/K85BRA9.png).

I figure alright, I'll be patient. I wait 3-4 weeks and hear nothing back from them so I send a note saying it's been a while and asking if they're still active. They read it but don't reply. A couple of weeks later I send another note asking if they forgot to reply or is something up. They don't bother opening the message. After another month of them ignoring me I decide to message their DA account asking if they could get back to me on FA. They reply saying sorry but they need to cancel the trade because "I've been busy with patreon stuff". http://i.imgur.com/OhY7X6U.png

Normally I don't care if a trade gets cancelled, stuff happens. However the "starting soon!" followed by being ignored for two months then cancelled after I already did the first half of my part so that they could play videogames is incredibly rude, especially since this was scheduled a month in advance followed by two additional months.


EDIT 1: As comments here suggested I let Jaykuma/DatPisces know that they can pay me for the part I've done and asked if they'd do so. They decided to not answer the question and called my persistence in being compensated "annoying" and fed me a BS sob story. http://i.imgur.com/bGg3w3t.png

In the 1-2 months before our scheduled start of the trade right up to the day they said they'd start there was zero mention of time problems. The only time this was mentioned as a problem is the moment he owed me art and it's an outright lie as right as we started the trade he spent over 100 hours playing Overwatch during that month alone.

I sent another message asking again if they'd compensate me and it is currently being ignored. I know he's seen the message too which is immensely frustrating. At this point I'm done dealing with them and all I can really do is hope others read this before being treated like I have.

Date: 2016-08-25 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parasolhyena (from livejournal.com)
That is so rude of them, to cancel after you've already done some of their half. They should have told you ages ago that there would be delays due to personal stuff. Beware well warranted.

Date: 2016-08-25 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhyn ghye (from livejournal.com)
When someone can't hold up their end of the deal art-wise and your half has already been delivered, they should be obligated to pay you back in some other way, be it money or whatever. You can't exactly un-show someone a finished piece and deleting it may be useless if they've already saved it to their pictures.

Date: 2016-08-26 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayesesshyfan.livejournal.com
That is awful :/

Busy with patreon stuff? They can't even hold on with their end of a promise of a trade after getting their side from you.

And wow, they even threw in "this is only my source of income" is just what, why even say that? They agreed to do a trade with you which means they knew it wasn't going to provide income. That shouldn't be said at all.

Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. They shouldn't be handling money at all with that terrible handling.
Edited Date: 2016-08-26 08:13 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-08-28 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jellyfishee.livejournal.com
Tell him that if he is too busy to complete his half of the trade, he will need to pay you for your finished half.

Date: 2016-08-31 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christina schandorph (from livejournal.com)
Wow, no. People can't just cancel an art trade after one of them has already done and showed their half. They should either bite the bullet and do the art for you or pay you for the work you did.

Date: 2016-09-01 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinmaxwell.livejournal.com
People like this are why I often ask for their half to be done first..as I've had this happen to me too.

I'm sorry this happened to you..it shouldn't have. They can NOt cancel after you are done.

Like another commentor said..either they can do their part...or pay you for yours. Enough said.

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